TOSLINK: That one consumer fiber optic standard

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  1. Mr. Satyre

    Mr. SatyreHari Yang lalu

    What about it?

  2. Mario Joia

    Mario JoiaHari Yang lalu

    "Pump that pulsing light" ... ... Oh boy.

  3. Ni5ei

    Ni5eiHari Yang lalu

    First time I learned about mini Toslink was when I got an Apple Airport Express. I used a mini Toslink to regular Toslink cable so I could connect it digitally to my receiver and stream audio from my phone to my receiver. I was quite amazed that the 3.5mm stereo headphone/line out jack socket also carried an optical signal.

  4. Hobointhehallway

    HobointhehallwayHari Yang lalu

    My man making the views he deserves finally, so proud! Still loving your content!

  5. FazerOnStunn

    FazerOnStunn3 hari yang lalu

    Copper (coaxial) SPDIF cables Could (theoretically) suffer higher bit-error rate (BER) or loss of bits/bytes/data, that’s it. Audiophiles type people would probably notice the dropouts or transients, it is said. I don’t know, I’m skeptical, too. But, that is the principle ofEMI concern with copper cables transmitting telemetry or data and having interference conducted onto the cable. Keep up your good work, as I really love your videos!

  6. Jude Jackson

    Jude Jackson4 hari yang lalu

    I might be mistaken but I’m pretty sure isolation transformers make it so none of your audio equipment is directly connected to the home wiring at all

  7. TheRedSoldier28

    TheRedSoldier284 hari yang lalu

    we still use the consoles, just use computer wired in where the tape machine would of been

  8. BenniRoR ­

    BenniRoR ­4 hari yang lalu

    I honestly thought that Toslink was rather well know, just BECAUSE it is the only consumer fiber optic.

  9. NuncNuncNuncNunc

    NuncNuncNuncNunc4 hari yang lalu

    I knew any video with a reference to audiophiles would eventually hit that certain special phrase.

  10. Kyle Ward

    Kyle Ward5 hari yang lalu

    TOSLINK cables are just so easy in every respect. How can you not use it? I've had 100 bad hdmi cables for every one bad toslink. I used to work in photonics, it's easy and cheap to get pretty crazy bandwidth at the LED/photodiode level. I've heard of a few people installing fiber networks in their homes already, but they've usually got servers set up.

  11. sn4xchan

    sn4xchan5 hari yang lalu

    You should do a video on the various forms of digital audio transmission. I know a lot of gear uses toslink cables to transmit madi which greatly increases the number of simultaneous audio streams at once with zero latency.

  12. EnvyPhnx

    EnvyPhnx5 hari yang lalu

    Fiber optic is much better than digital transmissions. For one, there is no resistance meaning there is absolutely no loss in quality and data is transmitted from point A to point B at a much faster rate. A second reason is like you said, there is no noise ever. Wires act like antennas meaning any fluctuation in magnetic energy such as those emitted by cell phones, television, computers, microwaves, and pretty much any other electronic device can cause false positives in bitstreams. A third reason is that it reduces the amount of digital to analog conversions necessary from point A to point B. Every time data is transmitted from analog to digital, it loses quality quickly due to how computers store analog waves as digital data. If the original wave was recorded at a set sample rate, and then converted again using a different sample rate, there will be holes at intervals equal to both sample rates causing static and fuzzy distortion to the signal. By allowing the data to be transmitted as an analog signal, there is no quality loss due to another conversion.

  13. Dax Liniere

    Dax Liniere6 hari yang lalu

    Andreas Vollenweider!!! :O :O :O

  14. kilgarragh

    kilgarragh6 hari yang lalu

    Him: it’s as dark as the future of windows phone. Me: dies

  15. CritCore

    CritCore7 hari yang lalu

    14:19 This is pure pain.

  16. Steve Lalancette

    Steve Lalancette7 hari yang lalu

    And another one consumer fiber optic standard from 1980 was in Datsun/Nissan. The ashtray in those cars was lighted with fiber optic cable. This was my first discovery of that optic thing when I was young.

  17. PistonAvatarGuy

    PistonAvatarGuy7 hari yang lalu

    I learned about Mini-TOSLINK because a Toshiba laptop that I was working on claimed to have a S/PDIF output, but I couldn't find it anywhere, until I activated it and noticed the headphone port glowing. Cool, but also a little useless.

  18. Matt561

    Matt5618 hari yang lalu

    On my old equipment it was all component and fiber optic.

  19. dicer288

    dicer2888 hari yang lalu

    The main advantage of TOSLink imo is the lack of ground loops. I regularly use TOSLink over 15 metre runs with no problems.

  20. Me.K

    Me.K8 hari yang lalu

    The iPhone had Mini Toslink as early as the iPhone 4S. So did the MacBook Pro. And yes, I found this out completely by accident as well lol.

  21. DaVeganZombie

    DaVeganZombie8 hari yang lalu

    On the rare occasion I need to look up info about audio, I have looked it up on audiophile forums, and then, usually picked the fifth or sixth option on any list/ looked at the comparison for the "less superior" version I end up using. I have never failed to have my issues solved, and always managed to save money. Those pretentious douches are good at explaining everything and making lists.

  22. Anthony R

    Anthony R8 hari yang lalu

    I totally noticed that glow on my laptop, and had a feeling that it was optical audio. However, I also didn't know they had a optical jack that fit in there. That's freaking cool, and never going to be used. At least on my computer.

  23. Kyle Martin

    Kyle Martin8 hari yang lalu

    Get the gold plated monster toslink cable. It offers the best interference.

  24. TotemSP2

    TotemSP28 hari yang lalu

    Speaking of which, have you done a video on Bitstream audio (Dolby Digital, DTS) vs Linear PCM?

  25. Marco Gruber

    Marco Gruber9 hari yang lalu

    14:14 ...uhm? From the top of my head; Apple used Toslink in their MacBook, MacMini, iMac, AppleTV and so on starting 2006 for almost a decade...

  26. failing@commenting

    failing@commenting10 hari yang lalu

    Dialup over toslink

  27. CodeTutor

    CodeTutor10 hari yang lalu

    Toslink on all macbooks (mini toslink) and macs (mostly mini toslink) since at least 2006

  28. drego5

    drego511 hari yang lalu

    14:28 LMAO!!

  29. James Gubbins

    James Gubbins11 hari yang lalu

    So, you: Shine a laser on the disc Convert the reflected light to an electrical signal Use the signal to light an LED Shine the LED down TOSLINK Convert the light back to an electrical signal Put the signal through a DAC in the amplifier Output it to a speaker. Why not just shine the reflected pulses directly down TOSLINK? It would surely have been more efficient.

  30. Ozrico1o1

    Ozrico1o111 hari yang lalu

    We didn't get toslink back in the '80's. We were still thinking in analog. Sure the CD came out, but we hooked it up with analog RCA's or headphones. Not alot of people 'got' what digital meant, except that it wasn't a magnetic medium. DAC's weren't in the lexicon at all.

  31. Vortagh

    Vortagh12 hari yang lalu

    "I hope it wasn't super common and I have missed this" Well, every Mac had it, since 2006. PowerBook G4 had it once year earlier....

  32. danielgartin6993

    danielgartin69937 hari yang lalu

    Yes, even some iPod docks have it too

  33. Michael Fritz

    Michael Fritz12 hari yang lalu

    We have a Tivo. HDMI to the television, TOSLINK to the stereo receiver. The TOSLINK always falls out. So I zip tied it to the adjacent HDMI cable to help support it.

  34. DestinationVoid

    DestinationVoid12 hari yang lalu

    HDMI - Handy Dandy Movie Input 😆😆😆

  35. Peter Sutherland

    Peter Sutherland13 hari yang lalu

    300,000kps lol

  36. BlofeldsCAT

    BlofeldsCAT14 hari yang lalu

    Back in the late 90s, I used a Sony Discman that had optical out to rip CDs to MiniDisc. This was a way to get around any copy protection that may have been used.

  37. Nate

    Nate15 hari yang lalu

    A major complaint about TOSLINK is bandwidth for uncompressed audio, but for PC gaming, you generally don’t need uncompressed audio. You’ll be hard pressed to find a gaming platform that doesn’t use audio compression to reduce file size. This puts TOSLINK at a greater advantage in the PC gaming market in terms of setting up a way to have game audio playback on a home theater setup. It also spares you from having to have to send the video signal from your video card through your receiver (which can actually cause home theater systems to heat up if you push the resolution too high).

  38. Björn Sigurðsson

    Björn Sigurðsson15 hari yang lalu

    Mini toslink is common and you missed it, but then so did everyone else...

  39. Mickeyjm

    Mickeyjm15 hari yang lalu

    I'd always wondered my audio port on my laptop had an LED in it...

  40. Fausto Paiva

    Fausto Paiva15 hari yang lalu

    People who bought toslink are the same who buy gold-plated HDMI connectors

  41. Aleksander Kalinowski

    Aleksander Kalinowski15 hari yang lalu

    Ah, yes. The infamous "Bumpy Bits".

  42. Patrick King

    Patrick King16 hari yang lalu

    @16:00 isn't that the bitchy woman from Casper?

  43. Al R

    Al R16 hari yang lalu

    *Optical cables with gold plating* LMAO!

  44. JTCPingas

    JTCPingas16 hari yang lalu

    14:27 😂

  45. No No

    No No16 hari yang lalu

    As dark as the future of windows phone, Dropping the harsh truth, Lovely xD Ive been telling my tosslink friends the deal about the signal having to be analog for the whole interference thing to make sense, but people dont get it, i know manny that thinks its the best audio you can get, i even try to use the sending a mp3 file from a computer to a computer over a ethernet cable vs a fiber cable scenario for them, and thats where a few finaly get it :D

  46. John McClain

    John McClain16 hari yang lalu

    Noise can actually be a bigger problem for digital connections if they have no error detection / correction (I don't think S/PIDF has error detection). If the noise does manage to overcome the digital threshold it as likely to corrupt the low order bit as the high order bit, so you get really obvious artifacts. Compare to analog where the lower order bits get corrupted first (and always...) Best example of this is long / low quality HDMI cables which will of introduce bright horizontal streaks into the video.

  47. Zoomzabba

    Zoomzabba16 hari yang lalu

    I just want to let everyone know that I use TOSLINK for both my PC and HTPC speaker systems.

  48. MayContainJoe

    MayContainJoe16 hari yang lalu

    My 2013 Toshiba TV sends its SPDIF audio back through copper, it doesn't feature TOSLINK (nor HDMI ARC).

  49. Halcyon Outlander

    Halcyon Outlander17 hari yang lalu

    My receiver has a small red light in standby mode. That tells me to turn it on. That's as far as I go with my optical experience.

  50. the one you dont see

    the one you dont see17 hari yang lalu

    but them shiny gold toslinks are good looking!

  51. Penny Lane

    Penny Lane17 hari yang lalu

    I only learned about this shit when I connected an ADAT device to an S/PDIF one and was surprised when nothing happened. I was also surprised to learn that you can't even get 5.1 signals through a fricking fibre optic cable with S/PDIF.

  52. MGCMDTM

    MGCMDTM17 hari yang lalu

    Handy Dandy Movie Input - *HDMI*

  53. Brad Kent

    Brad Kent17 hari yang lalu

    go blinky blinky faster!

  54. KJR Channel

    KJR Channel17 hari yang lalu

    Toslink is excellent when running spdif behind an electrically noisy, blinking Christmas tree.

  55. Arnaud

    Arnaud17 hari yang lalu

    Did anyone noticed the "Java powered" logo on the back of the DAC ?

  56. Nilay Khandelwal

    Nilay Khandelwal17 hari yang lalu

    Macbook Pros shared the mini-TOSLINK and 3.5 mm audio out until the 2015 model. It was dropped on later laptops. So did the Apple Airport Express routers with the audio out port.

  57. Wedge W

    Wedge W18 hari yang lalu

    Handy Dandy Movie Input. Excellent.

  58. Bergwacht

    Bergwacht18 hari yang lalu

    never used that^^

  59. Daniel McFarland

    Daniel McFarland18 hari yang lalu

    Many MacBook Pro's from 2006 - 2012 contained mini toslink. I'm not sure if the later retina MacBooks also contained the mini toslink connector.

  60. Alwin Garside

    Alwin Garside16 hari yang lalu

    iMacs as well. :-D

  61. God

    God18 hari yang lalu

    The only reason but a big reason I see toslink useful is to avoid ground loops, you can't have a ground loop if there's no electrical collection. Edit: oh, just noticed it's covered in the follow up video.

  62. adi

    adi18 hari yang lalu

    loves the narration..

  63. Bernhard Ire

    Bernhard Ire18 hari yang lalu

    It was a delight watching this video knowing that I can hear you because your voice is trasmitted digitally from my TV to my stereo reciever through a Toslink cable 👍🏻. Wait - am I weird? 🤔

  64. Brian Campbell

    Brian Campbell19 hari yang lalu

    Ouch! "As dark as the future of Windows Phone"

  65. steeviebops

    steeviebops19 hari yang lalu

    A lot of Acer laptops from the late 2000s have mini TOSLink in the headphone jack.

  66. Kiki Tay

    Kiki Tay19 hari yang lalu

    14:19 - I don't know why but this moment cracks me up for like a solid minute! 😂 Must be the buildup 😂🤣😂

  67. Allen Koay

    Allen Koay19 hari yang lalu

    The dack is make in malaysia ;)

  68. dwindeyer

    dwindeyer19 hari yang lalu

    Grounding issues can be a nightmare, optical audio cables are a godsend for isolation in consumer equipment.

  69. XSAVIER busy

    XSAVIER busy19 hari yang lalu

    Nobody never used these ports. Why? Because

  70. Eliot

    Eliot19 hari yang lalu

    Most Mac computers since around 2006 with headphone jacks have the combo mini-toslink jack. I learned about it probably in 2008ish in college, working at the tech desk, and remember seeing a red light coming out of the headphone jack. Also HDMI = "handy dandy movie input" ?! holy crap I actually laughed out loud at work. nice one.

  71. PsyGnosiS

    PsyGnosiS19 hari yang lalu

    optical allow higher bandwidth though.

  72. tullgutten

    tullgutten19 hari yang lalu

    best thing about it is there is no chance of electric interference when coiled in a bundle or lying next to power wires and also eliminates ground interference (OptoIsolator) Insulating for lightning strike between electronics And also saving cost in copper over long distances Edit: Would be nice to have in cars since there is a lot of issues of electrical noise in unshielded aux cables for audio

  73. Digestif

    Digestif19 hari yang lalu

    Great Video as usual but I noticed a small mistake at around the one Minute Mark. You talk about copper cables and that they have to be manufactured with higher tolerances. I think you wanted to say lower tolerances.

  74. Jeffmorgan83

    Jeffmorgan8320 hari yang lalu

    "I make sure ALL of my digital cables are gold plated. They just sound better." *facepalm*

  75. magic pissenlit

    magic pissenlit20 hari yang lalu

    At this point, what DIDN'T freak out the recording industry?

  76. Michael Turner-Smith

    Michael Turner-Smith20 hari yang lalu

    Oh. This is what it's called. My old turtle beach headphone tower has TOSLINK that I connect to my PS4. I lost the cord, but always thought it was "real" fiber optic. I remember when I first got it, I would use it, or at least try, as a light to help me find my controller.

  77. Joonas Mäkinen

    Joonas Mäkinen20 hari yang lalu

    14:12 Apple has that dual audio port in at least MacBook Pros (until 2016). Came as surprise to me too, how this feature wasn't really visibly marketed anywhere, but it works; I can just plug in that mini spike in the headphone jack and it works...

  78. TruthNerds

    TruthNerds18 hari yang lalu

    They did mention this on their tech specs page for the given Mac, but they indeed don't seem to have run any ads mentioning it.

  79. James Neave

    James Neave20 hari yang lalu

    One thing that's also not changed in toslink is DRM. It doesn't support HDCP and has been killed off in the laws written to "plug the unencrypted holes"

  80. T3Kgamer

    T3Kgamer20 hari yang lalu

    I mean, if they didn't let others use it freely there's a chance no one other than them would have used it

  81. Henry Chen

    Henry Chen20 hari yang lalu

    I discovered Mini-Toslink when I ran Linux on my MacBook Pro without power management utilities (usually TLP). Without such utilities, the LED was left glowing.

  82. JAMES GREER

    JAMES GREER20 hari yang lalu

    Your toshiba rant was nonsense. Toslink is used transmit digital audio data while electrically isolating the connected components. Because the cable is made from an insulator (glass or plastic) the noise from the power supply in your cheap cd player isn’t going to show up in your amplifier. It actually was a “remarkable” way to losslessly transmit SPDIF while maintaining an extremely low signal to noise ratio.

  83. PigEqualsBakon

    PigEqualsBakon20 hari yang lalu

    i was digging through our 2 boxes of assorted cables recently and I actually found a TOSLINK cable, had a fancy little end cap on the ends and everything. No idea what it was for, we've never been big on stuff like that, nor do I even care to ask. Its just neat.